Genevieve Piturro : Purpose, Passion, and Moxie | Episode 123

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Welcome, everyone, to Seasoned Women, Serious Business, and oh my God,

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I can really claim that I am wise enough to want more, because I wanted more

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of this woman on the screen with me.

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If you are on audio, it's unfortunate that you are missing this beautiful face

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in front of me, but you will be able to see her on YouTube and you probably see

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her on a stage somewhere soon as well, if you are wise enough to want more.

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I interviewed Genevieve for the first time in January of 2023, and the link

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to that episode will be included here.

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I begged her to come back again and again, because I just felt we had begun

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to share such incredible inspiration for purpose, and Passion, and all

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the other P's that were important.

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So without further ado, ladies and gentlemen, please say

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hello to Genevieve Piturro.

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Thank you, Isabel.

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I remember our conversation.

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I'm delighted to be invited back.

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It was such a good conversation.

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At the time, I gushed about your book.

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Look, I'll have it here.

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Purpose, Passion, and Pajamas, and how aligned I was with my place in

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life, another "P", with your story and your explanation about how we

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can, at any age, make a difference.

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And to this day, it just sticks with me when I think, there are many

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women who are uncomfortable about aging or talking openly, publicly,

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Another Pee, about their age.

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But because the world knows I will be 70 shortly after we are recording this

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episode, I am feeling so empowered by what is possible for women like you,

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like me, like our audience, who now are recognizing that there's so much

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potential for Making a Difference.

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I love to use your idea, your cue to be a voice that moves the

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world can be done in so many ways.

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It just doesn't have to be this magnificent splash like, the

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Gates Foundation or anything else.

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Before I continue on my fan bandwagon about you, I want to

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know what have you been up to for the last 21 months since we spoke?

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Getting past COVID was something we did together.

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We did it together.

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Yes.

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And we slowly, we revised our lives.

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I think it's fair to say we all did.

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And I started speaking again in person and wrote another

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book and I'm writing a third.

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It's about what you said, and another P is it wasn't planned that Pajama Program

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would impact so many or attract so many.

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We helped, we served, and it just grew heart to heart, and it wasn't planned,

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and I think that's the basis for my chapter two on sharing how to be a voice

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that moves the world because we all can.

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I'm grateful for some of the byproducts of the pandemic, another P.

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We're on a roll with the alliterations here, but that we all got much

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more comfortable with virtual communication and technology like Zoom.

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And that was a way for you to then find different platforms for you

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to communicate with the world.

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Yay for that, and yay for us having some time, maybe because socially we weren't

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as active, that we started to think about really, why would our life matter?

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At the end of it all, I remember that was one of the things that

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really was like a gut punch for me.

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Oh, God, here we go.

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Pee again.

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When in your, you're telling your story, you said to yourself, if this

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is the next 30 years of my life,

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and then what happened?

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Is this enough?

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And my answer.

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immediately to my shock was no, I just knew.

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And if you had asked me probably the day before, I would have

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said, yeah, this is good.

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The question came at a moment that I can't explain.

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And it came, I think, because something in me was ready to hear

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the question and to be honest.

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And Instantaneously, I knew something was missing.

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Just in case there are a few people who are going, what the

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heck are you two talking about?

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So they should go back and listen to episode 60 of the podcast, which

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although now has a different name also it is about your life and the story in

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this book, which is a must purchase.

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You can see, as I explained then, I've got notes all through the book.

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I've used this to inspire journaling.

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I have used it to inspire conversations when I invite a group of friends over

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to my salons to talk about these things.

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So for everyone, please get the book.

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It's on Amazon.

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I'll put the link in the show notes.

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If you, Jen, because it'll be better in your words, just give us a really

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brief overview of the story in the book.

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Of

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course.

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I was climbing the corporate ladder in television broadcasting,

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because I was a lover of Mary Tyler Moore, the actress, and her Mary

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Richards character as a little girl.

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And I loved her success and her independence, and I wanted that.

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Even though being from an Italian family, I was prepared, being prepared to have

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a family of my own and be a mom and, and I love my mom, best mom in the world,

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but I wanted that success that Mary had.

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And I did that for 12 years in New York City and I loved it.

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Or so I thought, until that afternoon alone in my living room, I heard

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that question asked from me to me.

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And I'm pointing to my heart because it wasn't this question from here

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that we hear ourselves, all the time from, but I heard it deeper.

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And I know later I realized it was from my heart.

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Ask that question.

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If this is the next 30 years of your life, is this enough?

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And when I answered, no, I just knew there was something that I had ignored in

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the family scenario that my parents had.

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Dreams for me to embrace.

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So I remembered a story on the news about police and social workers taking

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children out of a very bad, hurtful situation, and I called to see if I

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could read to these children at night.

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I thought maybe if I brought children some love.

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I broke them into my life, I could fill that hole that must

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be there from that question.

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And I started to do that.

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And I never felt more grounded sitting in my business suit on the

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floor of emergency shelters, reading bedtime stories to children who were

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afraid and traumatized and alone.

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And one night I saw them sleeping in the same clothes they'd been

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wearing for, I don't know how long.

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Didn't fit, weren't clean.

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And I brought pajamas and I just thought nothing of it except.

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This would be, a little gift I can leave for them after reading to them.

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And one little girl was so afraid of me and any taking anything from me that she

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just quietly asked me, what are pajamas?

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She didn't know what they were.

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She didn't feel she could take anything from me.

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She was just so afraid.

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And when she asked me that question, my whole world stopped.

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And.

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I kept myself calm and I answered the question and I just realized I

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had no clue what was going on in this little girl and how many other tens

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of thousands of children's hearts and minds to feel so lonely and afraid

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that maybe my pajamas could wrap themselves around them like a hug.

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And that's what happened with her.

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She loved them and she showed me that she did put them on and she

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had a little smile on her face and that stark difference from.

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The first part of the hour where she was so afraid of me and

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wouldn't let me, look at her to that part where she felt something.

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And I like to think it was a little love from a stranger that gave

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her some peace and some comfort.

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If it isn't obvious to everybody right away, I recommend that you have

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a box of tissues handy when you listen or watch Jennifer Genevieve's interview

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with me and you read her book because it really does Reach inside and squeeze

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your heart to think that there are so many children in the world that

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are living under these conditions.

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And because of that experience that you had, how you didn't just

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pat her on the head and walk away, you did something about it.

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And that's why we're here today, because by your example you're leading

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and showing us all that we can make a difference, even if it starts from a

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very small, with one person, but that if you continue to move forward, and you

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and I share An affinity to the law of attraction and the belief of, thinking

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about what you want to accomplish and drawing the right people to us.

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And also that would include Oprah, who was so moved by what you had

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started with the pajama program that she became a champion for you as well,

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right?

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She did.

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It was an incredible experience.

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The whole 20 some years has been just attracting like minded people with the

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heart for that little girl's feelings and loneliness that it couldn't be stopped.

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It just was like a runaway train and I'm grateful every day for so many people.

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So that.

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led you to impact millions of children's lives or millions of

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pajamas, at least, and it's continuing on, but, and I hope it always does.

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Let me just say that because sadly, I don't think the need

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is ever going to go away.

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I wish that society was different.

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Maybe we'll get there if more of us are open like this.

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But from there, then, people were reaching out to you to say, how did you do that?

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Could you now take us on that part of the journey?

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I often wonder, people, I think, including me, are afraid to make

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a change in our lives once we are stable and secure and are known for one thing.

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And then, we're in a job or we have crafted a life and then the

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idea of drastically changing it for some emotional moment is scary.

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And, seems very strange.

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But I think because people were inspired about making a change and they felt

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something in them, I think that those are the people who really resonate with

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my story and my decisions, because I think so many of us, Want to make a

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change and know in our deepest heart that there's something we're meant

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to do and that we're not doing it.

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And sometimes we know what that is and we're afraid 'cause we've come too far on

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the path we've been on to make a change.

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I think that my story and by speaking and writing touches them and gives them

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a little bit more courage to reach out.

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and to explore finding their true purpose, discovering what

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they're meant to do and be here.

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Yeah, you and I talked about before we all, I think, most

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of us have good hearts and good intentions, but there is, as you

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said, there's that fear of stepping out of the known into the unknown.

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We've imposter syndrome Who are you to think you can do this, Missy, right?

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And maybe there's also this paradigm that we have that says you have to

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be hugely wealthy and have a lot of resources, a structure, a board of

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directors, a foundation with millions in the bank to make a difference.

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But that's not true,

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right?

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I had nothing.

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I went into debt, had credit card people coming after me.

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And I had a mortgage that almost, got me into ruin.

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No, you don't have to have everything in place.

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I had nothing in place.

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Probably not the best way to start, but you can't start.

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You can figure it out along the way.

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It might be more painful.

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It might cause other people a little grief, of course there

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are better ways to do it.

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But if your heart's in the right place, you've got a really great, a great shot.

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And if you find your Moxie, I found my Moxie even better.

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I want you to talk about your Moxie, Bob.

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First, I also want to say thank you by sharing your story candidly about

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Not the right the best ways maybe to approach things that you have

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very generously shared with people.

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Better ways to do this.

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And we're, we may be all glamorous and feminine, but we are also

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pragmatic that we want sustainability of these things as well.

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So tell me about Moxie because this is new to me and I know that you have,

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since we met published another book called Purpose, Passion, and Moxie,

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How to Lead the Way, Leave a Legacy.

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And it's a workbook to help you start a nonprofit from scratch to success.

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As promised, we are back with this episode, because you

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are wise enough to want more.

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I teach and speak to all businesses, non profit, profitable, if

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you can make a million dollars doing what you're meant to do, more power to you.

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I think that's great.

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But a lot of people, because Pajama Program is non profit and I started

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it not knowing anything, I was in the business world, I was always asked

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and still am, about starting a non profit and I do mentor a lot of people.

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So I wrote this workbook to help, but I think Moxie's a word I learned, my

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mom said it a few times growing up, and it's not a word that, other people

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would use, and I didn't know that there was a drink until I married my husband,

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who's from Massachusetts, and we went to the store one day up there, and there

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was this moxie, and I said, oh, look at this, and it's, if you look it up,

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it's just persistence, you're having an edge, and going for it, and not giving

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up, and Maybe it's not the norm, but you take a chance because you want to get

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something done and you have that grit.

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And that's, that fit perfectly how I felt many times through pajama program

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and still doing the speaking and the book and everything now, because 20

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years of being executive director, I passed the baton to do this.

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So this was again, starting over for me to make my living.

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Inspiring people and showing them what change looks like and, allowing them

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to see through the success to what's really, what's really there deep.

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And I think that we need to reach down and to grab and just embrace that moxie,

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that grit, that we just want this and we just can do it and we just tell ourselves.

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I've got what it takes.

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I'm going to muster every piece of power I can to get this done.

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And to me, that's Moxie.

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I love it.

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I

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didn't ever think about really how to define Moxie.

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And, generationally I guess you and I have both heard it but wow, that's so cool.

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And what a, when you were describing it, I was picturing getting out

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of bed in the morning and putting on your moxie suit, it's like that

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outer aura about us that, hell no, we are not giving up on this, right?

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I love it.

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Did you choose, are you working exclusively with corporations and

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foundations or do you work on a personal level with individuals?

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Yes, all.

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I coach individuals I consult with companies and I speak to groups that are

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associations and businesses and yeah, all, all about being a voice that moves

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the world, starting with your own voice.

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And for leaders, It's a voice that will lead you to change and to

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impact people and leave a legacy of service and being true to yourself.

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I'm all about living our legacy as opposed to leaving a tidy

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sum in a bank account after you die.

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I think that's just so unfortunate if that's what people think a legacy is.

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I believe, like you, that if we choose to live our legacy while

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we're here, we get to experience it.

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We get to influence it and we have the opportunity to increase

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the impact right then and there.

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And so I, giving people a structure like you have with your coaching and

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your programs and the workbook now, yay.

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Just knowing where to start, right?

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That's the key.

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People we scare ourselves into, being paralyzed because it's overwhelming.

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It's, I'm so happy to see young people embracing their purpose and not taking

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any job and to ask questions about what do you do to make my life better?

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What can you offer that I will feel good about being part of?

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And I think that's really important.

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That wasn't the case when I was looking for a job or considering a career.

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But I think it's great that we're talking about it out loud, that we're

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talking about following our heart, that, it's about love, and I say that about

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leadership, it's about love, loving who you work with, loving what you do,

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and loving your leadership, and for the leader, it's loving the people that you're

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serving, in addition to the people you're working with, because That's a leader.

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Going, having the integrity to go outside of what's good for you and to really

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make a difference for other people.

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That's what breeds success.

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It's, people don't realize that because it's invisible.

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You can't count how many dollars come in because you've helped people.

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You can just see how many dollars you've collected, period.

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In time, in, if you match the hearts to it,

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You see what difference you're making.

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You see the changes.

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And it's more fulfilling than, like you said, having that money in the bank.

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I'm so happy that we're having this conversation because

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my audience primarily, as you can guess from the new show name,

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seasoned women, serious business.

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wise enough to want more.

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So many are at that stage in their life and in their business where

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it isn't just about building the revenue or the number of locations.

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There's, we're now at that stage of feeling validated ourselves for our

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purpose and the impact that we can have.

Isabel: 00:23:24

And.

Isabel: 00:23:25

And I think so many of, in my personal sphere and in my coaching

Isabel: 00:23:30

with clients as well, are also at that stage of what's next?

Isabel: 00:23:35

What now, right?

Isabel: 00:23:37

We did what we had to do, raising the business, raising families, raising

Isabel: 00:23:43

ourselves into CEO ness, but there's this other part that's this large part

Isabel: 00:23:51

of us that needs fulfillment as well.

Genevieve: 00:23:55

Yes, I think the older we get, which is a good thing.

Genevieve: 00:24:01

Yes.

Genevieve: 00:24:01

We realize.

Genevieve: 00:24:02

how we feel inside about our decisions and where we are right

Genevieve: 00:24:07

now, this moment in our life.

Isabel: 00:24:11

So much I share it.

Isabel: 00:24:12

Like I'm so excited about my 70th birthday coming up because I have realized, Oh

Isabel: 00:24:18

my God, this is one of the most freeing times of my life because I am so aware now

Isabel: 00:24:25

of what I don't want anymore in my life.

Isabel: 00:24:28

What I will not tolerate anymore.

Isabel: 00:24:32

And what's that's done is just open up this capacity for me to

Isabel: 00:24:38

want more of the things that I haven't made room for in the past.

Isabel: 00:24:45

So that's great.

Isabel: 00:24:47

However, I'm not giving up my shoes and neither are you.

Isabel: 00:24:52

If if you don't know Jen's amazing shoe collection yet.

Isabel: 00:24:58

You should go on her Instagram account.

Isabel: 00:25:01

It's at Genevieve Peturo on Instagram, correct?

Isabel: 00:25:05

Oh my God.

Isabel: 00:25:06

I love it because if that's not lifting as you climb, I don't know what is.

Isabel: 00:25:11

So great.

Isabel: 00:25:13

And I just, I had a hip replacement a couple of months

Isabel: 00:25:16

ago and I'm just thinking, woo, I can wear some heels again.

Isabel: 00:25:21

This is awesome.

Isabel: 00:25:22

That's great.

Isabel: 00:25:23

Cool.

Isabel: 00:25:24

All right.

Isabel: 00:25:25

Any I, you also have a TED talk or

Genevieve: 00:25:29

I had one and I have a couple of, I can't say

Genevieve: 00:25:32

yet, but you'll see them soon.

Genevieve: 00:25:34

I did one during COVID, which I, you do your first TED talk and you're

Genevieve: 00:25:40

so excited and then COVID hits and they put it on hold indefinitely.

Genevieve: 00:25:44

And then.

Genevieve: 00:25:45

COVID didn't go away as quickly as we had hoped and they came back, Ted,

Genevieve: 00:25:48

and said, okay, everybody do them because we can't just keep you on

Genevieve: 00:25:52

hold, but you have to do them, safely.

Genevieve: 00:25:55

Yep.

Genevieve: 00:25:56

So it's a very different experience, but I'm proud of it.

Genevieve: 00:25:58

And it's up, it's on my website and it's out there if you look.

Genevieve: 00:26:01

So now I have, I'll have a chance to do one live.

Genevieve: 00:26:04

So I'm excited.

Isabel: 00:26:06

That's still on my epic list.

Isabel: 00:26:08

So I admire you for having done that.

Isabel: 00:26:12

Okay.

Isabel: 00:26:13

So what I love to do is, first of all, I'm going to ask you

Isabel: 00:26:18

for something rather serious.

Isabel: 00:26:20

Oh, wait a second.

Isabel: 00:26:21

There's one more thing I wanted to say.

Isabel: 00:26:23

You mentioned when we were in the green room about book clubs.

Isabel: 00:26:28

Tell me about how that works in the context of your work.

Genevieve: 00:26:33

I'm happy to be there when the group finishes reading the book.

Genevieve: 00:26:37

So most of the time, there's a book club that chooses the book and they'll

Genevieve: 00:26:43

choose my book and they'll reach out to me and say, we would love to have

Genevieve: 00:26:46

you come on virtually or in person and just answer some questions and talk to

Genevieve: 00:26:51

us about the book, if you're willing.

Genevieve: 00:26:52

And of course I love that.

Genevieve: 00:26:54

So I do a lot of book clubs.

Genevieve: 00:26:56

Yeah.

Genevieve: 00:26:56

People can find me on any of my social channels or on my website if they have

Genevieve: 00:27:01

a book club and they're interested.

Isabel: 00:27:03

That's really awesome.

Isabel: 00:27:04

And all of them, why not do this in community?

Isabel: 00:27:09

Go through these concepts and work.

Isabel: 00:27:10

So I love that.

Isabel: 00:27:12

Okay.

Isabel: 00:27:12

So be a voice that moves the world.

Isabel: 00:27:18

Now I'd like to ask you two things.

Isabel: 00:27:22

One is my fun thing about share something with us.

Isabel: 00:27:28

We might not be able to find out find about you on Google.

Isabel: 00:27:32

Okay.

Genevieve: 00:27:34

You talked about my shoes already.

Genevieve: 00:27:36

Yep.

Genevieve: 00:27:37

But I can't find them.

Genevieve: 00:27:38

I swim most mornings, I do laps for 45 minutes or more, thus the curly hair.

Genevieve: 00:27:44

Wow, that's fantastic.

Genevieve: 00:27:46

Usually, I will blow dry it when I'm on stage, but I like to be

Genevieve: 00:27:51

a little freer after I've had my swimming and just let it be me.

Genevieve: 00:27:54

So it's my beachy, swimmy hair.

Genevieve: 00:27:56

So Yeah, it clears my head and as with so many people, water,

Genevieve: 00:28:01

brings these ideas forth.

Genevieve: 00:28:03

And for me I'm swimming and I'm listening to my music and ideas pop

Genevieve: 00:28:06

and I wish I had a pen and paper in the pool, but it's my grounding exercise.

Isabel: 00:28:12

I love that.

Isabel: 00:28:13

And that's also very inspirational that you have a dedicated me time.

Isabel: 00:28:20

Which is really good for your mental health and your physical health.

Isabel: 00:28:24

So that's fantastic.

Isabel: 00:28:25

And your creativity, apparently.

Isabel: 00:28:27

Okay.

Isabel: 00:28:28

To close the show, I'd love if you would share a pearl of wisdom with our audience.

Genevieve: 00:28:36

I would say something that I learned along the way

Genevieve: 00:28:41

that I do teach that It's not the power of one that changes things.

Genevieve: 00:28:45

It's the power of one another that moves mountains and moves people.

Isabel: 00:28:50

I I'm speechless because that is very powerful and it's true.

Isabel: 00:28:56

I don't like doing things on my own.

Isabel: 00:28:59

It's very, it's like a one handed clap, right?

Isabel: 00:29:02

but in the power of collaboration.

Isabel: 00:29:05

Fabulous.

Isabel: 00:29:05

I heard you say that you're working on another book.

Isabel: 00:29:09

Can I ask you to come back with me when that book's ready for release

Isabel: 00:29:14

and we can tell the world about it?

Isabel: 00:29:16

Of course, I'd love

Genevieve: 00:29:17

it.

Genevieve: 00:29:17

Yes, Isabel, yes.

Isabel: 00:29:19

Okay.

Isabel: 00:29:20

All right.

Isabel: 00:29:21

Thank you so very much.

Isabel: 00:29:22

I really appreciate what you are doing.

Genevieve: 00:29:26

Thank you for this invitation.

Genevieve: 00:29:27

It's great to be with you again, and we'll do it a third time.

Genevieve: 00:29:31

Bye, Isabel.

Genevieve: 00:29:37

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Genevieve: 00:29:42

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Genevieve: 00:29:47

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Until next time, keep thriving, keep vibing, and keep living your legacy.