Powered By Three Mastermind | Episode 113

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Welcome everyone to Seasoned Women, Serious Business.

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Today I have a very special treat for you and for me.

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Normally on Mondays, I do meet with the two women that you see here on the screen.

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It is our weekly mastermind meeting.

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But today we have a special meeting in your honor, because we're recording

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an episode for the podcast all about masterminds and what we have learned

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over the case of, six years of meeting almost every Monday around the calendar.

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Let me begin by having my guests, my mastermind mavens,

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introduce themselves to you.

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Let's start with you, Lee.

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Hello, I'm Lee Woodward, and like Isabel said, been in the mastermind

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for six years, and Isabel and Jackie have seen me go through changes both

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personally and in my professional life.

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And kind of Isabel, as we were talking about kind of the opposite of who you

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work with seasoned women, I've switched my focus to helping 20 somethings

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in the areas of their career, their money, and just adulting stress.

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It's one of the things that is lighting me up and I enjoy it so much.

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Isabel and I met four businesses ago after a big corporate career.

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So they've seen me through so many changes.

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So I'll leave it at.

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That.

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All right.

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That was a great teaser intro, Lee!

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Thank you, Jackie.

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Yes, thank you.

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Good to see you both ladies and good to see the audience too.

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I'm Jackie Ulmer and I've gone through a number of pivots too.

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When we met and started our mastermind, I was highly focused on business and

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social media coaching, primarily in the direct sales, network marketing

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and real estate end of things.

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And while I still do that over the course of the last few years, as we

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watched a lot of things change, I really.

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sat around thinking, what do I want to do with the rest of my life?

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How do I really want to make impact and make a difference?

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And one of the things that has always really stuck out for

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me is we don't get our goals.

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We get our habits.

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So I really like to focus on habits.

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And I've since pivoted.

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into health and wellness coaching.

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We live in a toxic soup.

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We hear that.

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And what I really like to do is help people clean up the major areas of

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their life in a very simple way from diet nutrition to the environmental

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toxins around us, our personal care products and home cleaning.

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And it's just been fun to make that pivot with both of you and that power

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of the mastermind to help collaborate and help steer in the right direction.

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So thrilled to be here sharing with you all.

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Oh, thank you.

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And as I was thinking about this episode this morning, I realized that the three

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of us, as much as we are so incredibly different, we have so much sameness in

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terms of our desire to constantly excavate what doesn't work for us anymore in

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our lives, and to continue to grow and become the best version of ourselves.

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And so for the audience, I come from the entrepreneur side of the world.

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all of my life.

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I've either run other people's businesses or built my own and sold those.

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It's quite fun to realize that bringing the three of us together, we have

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this three sided balance where Lee came from the fortune 50 world, right?

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Major corporation background.

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Incredible!

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Jackie bootstrapped a very successful business before the internet was known

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to most of us, she was already actively building in that area and developed

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an expertise in marketing, which she then shared with other people.

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I came in from left field and from a different country, Canada to Arizona,

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coming with my experience as a woman business owner on a fairly global stage,

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but also loving the fact that I could work with other women entrepreneurs

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on a very personal and local basis.

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So to set the stage we also did our homework for you and looked back.

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It was June of 2018 when the three of us came together.

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came together in another group.

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That was the first time I'd met Jackie, but Lee and I knew each other

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previously and we came together in a group that the best outcome of

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it for me was deciding we wanted to continue to meet on a regular basis.

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In the beginning, I remember we talked about it as being accountability partners.

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And of course, over time, what we've all learned is that accountability is

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an inside job, and if we don't do it ourselves, nobody else can do it for us.

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But Lee, what do you recall from the origin of our story?

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Yeah, like you said, we met in that entrepreneurial space.

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I was new.

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You were leading a kind of a mastermind and advisory board.

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I remember meeting the group, Jackie, where I met you and I was intimidated

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because you had so much stuff together and I was like, Oh my gosh, you're

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like, she's really knows her stuff.

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But when we decided to keep it going, I remember we were willing

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to be vulnerable with each other and really get to know each other.

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I think one of the things that just quickly came for me in our group was just

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saying " Oh My God, a place to breathe!

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How I am is how I am, and that's how I can show up.

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And I don't think I'd ever truly experienced so wholly before.

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I wish I knew how we could package that for other women.

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What's kept us together over these six years, the glue, is our ability to be

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completely vulnerable with each other.

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And to be able to appear on video without makeup, which I've learned to

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do on Marco Polo, thanks to you guys.

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Or clothes.

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Yeah.

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All right.

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Stay tuned.

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We'll tell you all a little more about that later, but thank you, Jackie.

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In other organizations or other groups that I've been in, it's been too

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superficial to build that trust that we have developed with each other.

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So Jackie, from the beginning, how much do you think we've changed or

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what have we retained over the years?

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I know for me, and Lee, I'm glad you led that off with

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the vulnerability piece, because honestly, that was the very first

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thing that resonated with me about you.

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That first retreat that we did where you shared so vulnerably about your childhood

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and some of your stories and experiences.

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And I am that type A achiever performer personality type and one

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of the things that I remember even from being young was the kind of

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the never let 'Em see you sweat.

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Vulnerability for me has and still is sometimes a very challenging

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piece of things, but, what our coming together really taught me is

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that I am only going to grow so far until I'm really willing to do that.

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And it really, and I've been a pretty good storyteller most of my

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life in terms of certain aspects, the hero's journey, a lot of that.

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But I realized there are certain parts of my story that I shared in a different way.

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And so I thank you both for,

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It's okay.

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That's okay.

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It's accepted.

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And how much I have grown from that piece alone has been amazing.

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It's that whole Shrek thing, like the onion.

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It's allowed me to peel back a lot of different layers of

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things, where I can see now, wow, that was part of my struggle.

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That's why this happened this way.

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I look back six years and I think, wow.

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For me personally, the growth just in that area has been tremendous because it's

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allowed me to see all different things in a whole different light from a more maybe

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realistic and honest and authentic way.

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You brought up something I've been in other mastermind groups and

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Lee, as you said, I've facilitated a woman's advisory board group for five,

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six years, but I've never been in a group where, I could be 100 percent present

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as the recipient and as the giver.

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I realized something that's another unique part of our recipe is that

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we take turns being the facilitator.

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We take turns being the expert in our respective fields.

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We take turns being the student and that's what keeps this so fresh

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because they say in the movies, "It's like a box of chocolates every week."

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Who knows, right?

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So Lee, you came, into this from the corporate background, recovering,

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fascinating story for anybody.

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You'll have to follow Lee and find out about that more, but you came in, which

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was interesting for me, always observing that you felt a little unprepared or

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a little insecure in terms of your entrepreneurial experience and skill

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sets, yet you were light years ahead of anything I had ever experienced.

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But over time, what have you observed from that?

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Yeah.

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. It's such a different world.

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When you're in the corporate world, as an executive, sure, I had strategic direction

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and sure I led teams and I had to say, Hey, we're going to spend money this way.

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But it was still somebody else's agenda, right?

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So there was a story that always followed me and it followed me into

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entrepreneurship and I think I'm almost through it, I'm not quite there

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yet, but I had convinced myself that.

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I was always meant to be in the background.

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So in my corporate world, I really loved, and I'm very good at it:

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you give me a great leader, and I will make them even better!

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And I can be a great leader in that, but I've always considered

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myself behind the scenes.

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Even in high school, I remember when we did a play for like our senior

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year, I didn't want to be on the stage.

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I wanted to be "okay, we should have the light shine here, there."

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I don't want to be seen.

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I don't want to be the one in the center.

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And I think coming into being an entrepreneur, especially a solopreneur.

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Geez, that doesn't work so great because you're that is,

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that's like the business is me.

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So I think that was probably my biggest, I'll say challenge.

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And it wasn't about skills.

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It wasn't about experience.

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It was about story and this belief set I had about myself.

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And by the way, there was a lot that I liked about that.

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I guess all of our stories, if we stick with them, they serve us somehow, right?

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So I think that's been the biggest challenge for me and opportunity

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for me, and I'm getting there and in that journey and I think being able

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to be with you guys and I don't know if you guys saw that struggling.

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I think you have.

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I don't think that any of this is a surprise to you, right?

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How do I step out there and be that person?

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Whatever the story is whatever's holding us back, you guys have

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helped me work through that because that's a belief system and to undo a

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belief system is big fricking work.

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And so working through that belief system, I don't think I'd be

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where I'm at without you guys.

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Jackie, I'm hearing your voice in my head and to the effect of,

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there's the story we tell ourselves.

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would you share that with our audience?

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Yeah, I think I know what you mean by that.

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It's funny.

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You brought up the belief systems and I've, there's three

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ways to describe BS, right?

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The term BS, there's obviously bull shiznit.

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There's belief systems, and then there's blind spots.

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And we have all three of those and that's the power of the mastermind.

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There's the story that we tell ourselves.

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And We get stuck in that.

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It's like habits, right?

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The whole thing with how many, like 60 to 80, 000 thoughts we have every day,

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90 percent of those are repetitive and like 90 percent of those are negative.

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Our brain defaults to telling us the same story over and over.

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We get up, it's raining, we make up a story, we have a story about

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what that means for our day.

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We wake up, we feel tired.

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We already have a story about what that means for our day.

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A lot of that kind of stuff.

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Whereas if you can stop and say, yeah, I'm tired, but I can still walk half

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a mile or I can still record a short podcast or whatever it is, so just

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different things like that where we really have to go to work on managing our

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mind, our brain, and taking it back away from the toddler that likes to run the

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brain, and saying, I'm the adult here.

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That may be a story from the past but the past is over.

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It's gone.

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It doesn't exist anymore, except in my mind.

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And I get to control what's in my mind.

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So I am going to rewrite that story.

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And I do that just by being aware.

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Every morning.

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I do a thought download.

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I put everything down there: frustrated with this person in my family and

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frustrated with this in my business.

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And oh, grateful for whatever.

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And then, really looking at that and saying, how is that thought

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building a story that's going to affect my day either positively or

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negatively and how can I shift that?

Isabel: 00:14:03

Yeah it's another benefit of this mastermind.

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We have been able to try out some practices, thought downloads,

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journaling, morning pages lots of other things as we're, because

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we're all compulsive learners and some of us are compulsive library.

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Check routers but this is the other advantage is that with the three

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of us looking at these different, modalities or methodologies.

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It's been very interesting to see how we each take away a different aspect of it,

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sometimes implementing the practice and sticking with it, and other times not.

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But let me just say, between the two of you, I think you've saved me a

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thousand years of research, so thank you.

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Thousands of dollars in therapy for all of us.

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And books.

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Thousands of books.

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Yes.

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We started out because we were in another group and we decided to spin off.

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And then somewhere in that when we recognized the incredible value

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of this three way exchange and education and experience, we said

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we were going to have a radio show.

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And we were all excited about that.

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And in fact that was just before the pandemic and as a result, we

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weren't able to go live in studio.

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So we did start YouTube channel and we were recording for a while.

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Transformation Decoded.

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When I go back and look at those, I think, man, we were

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flippin brilliant, I gotta say.

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And in particular, one came to mind which I think you were

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alluding to earlier, Jackie.

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It was Lee's birthday.

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And at that time in history, I was in my 60s, Jackie was in her 50s, and Lee

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was approaching the end of her 40s.

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And we had the most wonderful episode.

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So I'll share the link to that as well here.

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I bring that up because it's so interesting.

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At the time that we began our Mastermind and our Transformation

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Decoded videos, I had never thought of having a podcast and now I've had two.

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And I'm just thinking about what I might not have had the courage

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to try had I not had this group.

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And as of last week's episode, My Trampoline; you are my trampoline because

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I'm rebounding every time I stumble or I am being bounced up by something

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you've tried and I get to observe it.

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What would be something that maybe you wouldn't have done, Lee had it

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not been for being in this group?

Lee Woodward: 00:16:54

I can think of several things.

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Just in general, like you said, trying different different practices and things

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like that, that you guys just opened my eyes to especially you, Jackie,

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you're the master of like practices and trying trying different things.

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But I think probably the one that sticks out the most was my decision to shut

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down my business during the pandemic.

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And I had already made a lot of, changes in it and thank goodness I made some,

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just by serendipity, had gotten out of a lease and was starting to go online

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and there was a lot of challenges and, and at the end of the day, I think

Lee Woodward: 00:17:36

without you guys, just the ability to work through, what does it mean to quit?

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What does it mean to fail?

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Does that make me a quitter?

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Does that make me a failure?

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There was a lot of ego wrapped up in that.

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A lot of, sadness because I had a lot of dreams with that.

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I probably, would have just figured out how to hunker through

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it instead of stepping back and saying, okay what do I want to do?

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And that's just good enough.

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Like just what I want to do is good enough.

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Peeling away irrelevance that can weigh so heavy and just saying, no,

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this is what I'm going to do and own it, and did it, and shut her down.

Isabel: 00:18:24

Jackie, any thoughts on that?

Jacki Ulmer: 00:18:27

On Leigh's or my own?

Jacki Ulmer: 00:18:30

All of the above.

Jacki Ulmer: 00:18:32

Yeah.

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Lots of thoughts.

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It was what are even the words?

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It was Not humbling.

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It was an honor, in a sense, to go through that with you, Leigh, because it's like

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anything, and we share this all the time.

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It is funny.

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I'm going to guess mostly women are listening to this, but this

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came up the other day, how when you are menstruating, women typically

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tend to get on the same cycle as those they hang out with the most.

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That's not uncommon.

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And we feel so much like we've done that with a lot of the ebbs and

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flows of our lives, experiences that we're going through, whether

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it's business or kids or whatever.

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Just, so many different things.

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Friend groups.

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It just goes on and on.

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And so it's, it has been an honor to watch both of you go through anything

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that you've gone through, because it's been such a learning time for me to

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watch, listen, offer what I can and then also just sit back and allow that

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process to happen for both of you and observe that and how at the end of

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the day it's all going to be okay.

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Like things are meant to be a certain way or whatever and they right themselves.

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So that's been especially gratifying.

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if that makes sense.

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It sounds like not the right word to say I'm grateful that you went

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through that, but I am because it helped, it's helped me explore other

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possibilities for myself, for sure.

Isabel: 00:19:54

I think gratitude is a really good word.

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That's what I was feeling as well.

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First of all, I have deep gratitude for having co-created this with the two of

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you, that we can feel safe enough to talk about anything Even if we aren't quite

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ready to talk about it with ourselves, which has been a big fucking part of

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my journey and to be able to stand just in witness with each other without any

Isabel: 00:20:29

judgment or need to rush in and rescue or say things, stupid things, like I

Isabel: 00:20:36

want to punch people when they say, "yeah but", "at least" -because we've

Isabel: 00:20:42

allowed ourselves to grieve and to celebrate and to grow and be truthful.

Isabel: 00:20:50

Let me just tell you, audience, some days it ain't pretty.

Isabel: 00:20:54

Some days there's snot running and tears running and bad words flowing

Isabel: 00:20:58

and other days we are laughing so hard that we might pee a little.

Isabel: 00:21:03

We are really remarkable!

Isabel: 00:21:04

On top of that,

Isabel: 00:21:06

we are doing this virtually, so there's no damn excuse for anybody

Isabel: 00:21:13

not to create these trampolines.

Isabel: 00:21:17

No matter where you are in the world or what time zone, because I was thinking

Isabel: 00:21:21

about that this morning too, you guys have supported me through a tremendous

Isabel: 00:21:25

change in the last couple of years.

Isabel: 00:21:28

Hair color, Last name, country of residence, businesses, etc., Many things.

Isabel: 00:21:35

And, but we've never faltered on our commitment to show up

Isabel: 00:21:39

for each other whatever part of the world one of us was in.

Isabel: 00:21:43

And that technology has really been a boon for us.

Jacki Ulmer: 00:21:48

Think how rich that makes the fabric of everybody's life though

Jacki Ulmer: 00:21:52

when you have people who have different experiences and you watch them do that and

Jacki Ulmer: 00:21:57

you experience it with them and, it's like watching a good Netflix series probably

Jacki Ulmer: 00:22:02

to some extent where you are part of it, but you're even more part of it than a TV

Jacki Ulmer: 00:22:07

show or something where you can, really feel like you're in that experience.

Jacki Ulmer: 00:22:11

For instance, Isabel, when you were in Bali and we were doing

Jacki Ulmer: 00:22:14

Zoom calls, doing our mastermind, we could hear the wild birds, off

Jacki Ulmer: 00:22:19

the veranda and stuff like that.

Jacki Ulmer: 00:22:20

And I felt like I was there, like that was just uplifting.

Jacki Ulmer: 00:22:23

I used to live in Ventura by the ocean, literally three blocks off the ocean.

Jacki Ulmer: 00:22:26

It was amazing.

Jacki Ulmer: 00:22:27

And I took full advantage of it and walked the strand almost every

Jacki Ulmer: 00:22:30

single day, sometimes multiple times.

Jacki Ulmer: 00:22:32

And then I moved back to Scottsdale and right before I moved, I bought a little

Jacki Ulmer: 00:22:36

book called How to Live at the Beach.

Jacki Ulmer: 00:22:38

And it was from my favorite little beach store, which I have a lot of

Jacki Ulmer: 00:22:41

beach things from, but I bought that book and that book is just really

Jacki Ulmer: 00:22:45

reminded me that I can go back to the beach in my mind anytime I want.

Jacki Ulmer: 00:22:49

And it is powerful.

Jacki Ulmer: 00:22:50

If you really stop and meditate and just get to the beach,

Jacki Ulmer: 00:22:53

you can smell the saltwater.

Jacki Ulmer: 00:22:56

You can hear the seagulls.

Jacki Ulmer: 00:22:59

You can fight with them over the french fries if you want.

Jacki Ulmer: 00:23:01

There's so many things about it and that's the experience that I felt like I had with

Jacki Ulmer: 00:23:06

a lot of your journeys too is, I wasn't in Dubai with you when you were there.

Jacki Ulmer: 00:23:10

I wasn't in Bali with you when you were there, but I felt like I was, I felt

Jacki Ulmer: 00:23:13

like I was such a part of the experience.

Jacki Ulmer: 00:23:15

And then even though I couldn't be there at that time, I can feel very

Jacki Ulmer: 00:23:19

uplifted by almost being there.

Isabel: 00:23:23

Thank you so much.

Isabel: 00:23:25

You just reminded me there's a bird thing theme for us, right?

Isabel: 00:23:28

Because it's, if I'm listening to Lee on Marco Polo early in the morning

Isabel: 00:23:33

when she's out by her pond the birds are all chirping and singing, and at

Isabel: 00:23:38

one time they were chickens too, and Jackie you're place with the owls.

Isabel: 00:23:43

Yes.

Isabel: 00:23:43

We are birds of a feather in many ways, right?

Isabel: 00:23:47

Yes.

Isabel: 00:23:49

All right.

Isabel: 00:23:50

What I am feeling, and not to put you all on the spot, but I think that there

Isabel: 00:23:56

is so many more aspects of creating a successful mastermind that I'd like to

Isabel: 00:24:02

ask you both to come back and we can discuss this further because It isn't

Isabel: 00:24:09

just kumbaya, it is like we got a lot of serious shit done over the years, both

Isabel: 00:24:15

business wise and personal growth as well.

Isabel: 00:24:18

So A, would you do that?

Isabel: 00:24:20

Yes.

Isabel: 00:24:21

You can't say no.

Isabel: 00:24:24

B I'd like to ask, everyone who's listening to us to write in at hello at

Isabel: 00:24:32

the Encore Catalyst dot com and give us the questions, like what do you want to

Isabel: 00:24:38

know about how to build a good mastermind?

Isabel: 00:24:41

What are the questions that you have that, maybe we've piqued some curiosity

Isabel: 00:24:46

today because I can tell you one thing we are a very generous group wanting

Isabel: 00:24:53

to share what we have learned as women entrepreneurs, as citizens of the world.

Isabel: 00:25:00

And although the podcast Lift As You Climb was my podcast, the reason that

Isabel: 00:25:06

I'm so bonded to these two sisters of mine is that we share those values.

Isabel: 00:25:12

We share the values of wanting to continue to grow and become the best version of

Isabel: 00:25:17

ourselves, but at the same time, by our experience helping others do the same.

Isabel: 00:25:23

Okay.

Isabel: 00:25:24

Any last pearls of wisdom that you would like to share?

Isabel: 00:25:28

And I'll start with you this time, Jackie.

Jacki Ulmer: 00:25:32

I would say as you're listening and you're formulating any

Jacki Ulmer: 00:25:35

questions think about in what ways you believe a mastermind might serve you.

Jacki Ulmer: 00:25:41

Also, what in your mind is the definition of a mastermind even and how that

Jacki Ulmer: 00:25:46

might be in alignment or pivot or give you some different thoughts once

Jacki Ulmer: 00:25:51

we come back and share some of that.

Jacki Ulmer: 00:25:53

And then I'm looking forward to sharing like some of the structure

Jacki Ulmer: 00:25:56

and the loose structure that we've had because being a habits person.

Jacki Ulmer: 00:26:00

I like to have my little structure in place and all that.

Jacki Ulmer: 00:26:02

So I think it'll be fabulous.

Isabel: 00:26:06

Yeah, I like that.

Isabel: 00:26:07

Thank you very much.

Isabel: 00:26:08

We will share the how to the recipe so that you can create your own.

Lee Woodward: 00:26:14

Lee?

Lee Woodward: 00:26:15

Yeah, I guess I would say you have to choose it and you have to prioritize it.

Lee Woodward: 00:26:20

When something gets good, it's easy to take it for granted and let the

Lee Woodward: 00:26:25

intentionality slip a little bit.

Lee Woodward: 00:26:27

And I'm just reminded of this because I was actually, I was, someone reached

Lee Woodward: 00:26:31

out to me, which I was very honored to have them reach out and think of me.

Lee Woodward: 00:26:34

They wanted to introduce me to somebody to do some networking.

Lee Woodward: 00:26:37

And I had to decline because I don't have the energy or the time

Lee Woodward: 00:26:42

right now to do that it would be just on surface level only.

Lee Woodward: 00:26:47

And part of that decision making is no, I can't do anything that

Lee Woodward: 00:26:51

doesn't allow me to show up for you guys and for our mastermind

Lee Woodward: 00:26:55

This is a top priority for me to be able to have the energy to show up.

Lee Woodward: 00:27:00

So I think it's really about that intentionality and maintaining

Lee Woodward: 00:27:05

that over time and that commitment.

Isabel: 00:27:08

Wow.

Isabel: 00:27:09

If I wasn't already part of this group, I'd really be begging you to let me join

Isabel: 00:27:14

you because it's true and I'm so happy that you agreed to come on my podcast

Isabel: 00:27:21

today so that I could hear what it is that I value so much and be reminded by it.

Isabel: 00:27:30

And for that, thank you.

Isabel: 00:27:33

And for everybody listening, do not underestimate the two women on this

Isabel: 00:27:37

screen because they are incredible examples of how to show up in life and

Isabel: 00:27:46

keep on going and doing and creating and changing and reinventing and all of

Isabel: 00:27:52

the fabulous stuff that they both are.

Isabel: 00:27:55

And I'm so grateful to have both of them in my life.

Isabel: 00:28:00

Jackie, you have a podcast.

Isabel: 00:28:02

In fact, you've got two, right?

Isabel: 00:28:03

Would you let everybody know what they are?

Jacki Ulmer: 00:28:06

I actually have three!

Jacki Ulmer: 00:28:07

Peak Performance Habits is one.

Jacki Ulmer: 00:28:09

Lower Toxic Life is my passion project right now.

Jacki Ulmer: 00:28:13

And then I have the Pilot Wife podcast too.

Isabel: 00:28:16

Lee, you're on the verge of launching something

Isabel: 00:28:19

so valuable please share that.

Lee Woodward: 00:28:23

Yeah, as much as I listen to podcasts, I do not have a podcast

Lee Woodward: 00:28:26

but I do have a YouTube channel at Simplify Adulting, and SimplifyAdulting.

Lee Woodward: 00:28:33

com.

Lee Woodward: 00:28:33

The focus is on supporting 20 somethings with this crazy complex thing called

Lee Woodward: 00:28:38

adulting do a lot of great tools, resources, and Yeah, I love it.

Isabel: 00:28:43

And I love it too because, I'm a queen- ager myself at, I'll be 70

Isabel: 00:28:48

very soon, another birthday episode for Transformation Decoded on the books.

Isabel: 00:28:54

But in hearing you talk about the research, the social validation,

Isabel: 00:29:00

and your plans for the program, I'm learning valuable things for myself.

Isabel: 00:29:05

So thank you.

Isabel: 00:29:07

All right, until our mastermind, I'll see you and I'll be sharing

Isabel: 00:29:11

this episode with everyone and picking a date for us to meet again.

Isabel: 00:29:20

Say bye bye.

Jacki Ulmer: 00:29:21

Bye.